Where can I find examples of using UART module in UIFlow?

zhoubinx

@robski Thanks alot robski! Thanks for your clue about uiflow 1， so I tried to code in mpy, “from machine import UART”. At least, it no longer crashes, but still can't read and write data, I will keep on trying and let everyone know.

zhoubinx

@felmue I studied your example. Can I know what device you used to connect to S3 through the UART port(port C of the S3 core)? On my side it still doesn't work, can't read anything neither write out. I noticed in the introduction of S3, there is an official note:"Q: After the sensor is connected, what is the case that the sensor does not work or does not exist?
A: The CoreS3 uses the AXP2101 power management chip, and the Port port and the M5-Bus power supply need to be configured for normal output voltage. The configured API is in the AXP2101.cpp library file, and can be configured as required. eg: M5.Axp.powerModeSet(POWER_MODE_USB_OUT_BUS_OUT) in the setup function."

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Would that be the reason? How can I do that in mpy? In your mpy and C project, you never use this powerModeSet function.

Many thanks again!

felmue

Hello @zhoubinx

there is no need for that when using UIFlow2. UIFlow2 firmware automatically turns the power on for all ports. (The FAQ comment is only relevant when programming with Arduino.)

What is the serial device you are trying to read from and write to? (I was testing with a SIM7080 modem, btw.)

Thanks
Felix

zhoubinx

@felmue Understand! Thanks! I'm using a 3rd part device, not M5's product.

felmue

Hello @zhoubinx

please note: while Groove ports on M5Stack cores provide 5 V power, the data pins are only 3.3 V tolerant. Which means you might need some level shifters to make a third party product work.

Do you have a link to that 3rd party product?

Thanks
Felix

teastain

@felmue As a side note:
I had a project where the third party sensor was 5V intolerant.
I chose the Stamp-PICO with the USB Downloader accessory (and the Stamp-ISP) are 3.3V (!)

zhoubinx

@felmue Thanks Felix! The device i'm working on is an Arduino 328P board, there were a UART port on the board (as far as the info i have, there printed "UART port", not I2C or whatever). It's a quite old device, it's difficult find link and more introduction. And it is the control board of an open source laser engraver machine.
I will try your suggestion of the port voltage. And I also ordered a M5 UART GPS module, I will try that module to get more understanding of serials port programing first.

zhoubinx

@felmue I tested my target device the PIN is 3.3V, so, I need to downgrade M5 from 5V to 3.3V? Many thanks!

robski

@zhoubinx M5 gpio/ grove are 3.3v so if your device side is 3.3 then all good, be sure that tx goes to rx and rx to tx, same baudrate and parity ....

felmue

Hello @zhoubinx

like @robski already mentioned, you only need level shifter if your target board TX and RX pins are different from M5Stack Groove port, which uses 3.3 V on its data pins. (Only the red wire of the Groove port, providing power to the M5Stack units, is 5 V.)

Are you sure your target board uses 3.3 V on the data pins? Arduino boards (especially old ones) mostly use 5 V on their data pins.

Thanks
Felix

zhoubinx

0_1709551989520_da169cec-8dae-4fdb-8fd5-671dcf1aaaaa-image.png It looks like the bad thing is from AXP2101 power chip, all the PORTs were set to 5V? Please, any idea of how to lower voltage to 3.3V.
I will also find a multimeter to give a test.

felmue

Hello @zhoubinx

I am not sure you fully understand the concept of how the Groove port of M5Stack devices are setup.

Power (red wire) provides 5 V to M5Stack units (which if required turn the 5 V internally to 3.3 V using an DC/DC converter or LDO).
Data lines (yellow and white wire) use 3.3 V
GND (black wire)

In your case I assume the 3rd party device (Arduino) is already powered by its own power supply. If yes, then there is no need to use the power (red wire) of the M5Stack.

If the 3rd party device is using 3.3 V on its data lines (TX and RX) then the wiring is as follows:

M5Stack (3.3 V) TX <---> RX (3.3 V) of 3rd party device
M5Stack (3.3 V) RX <---> TX (3.3 V) of 3rd party device
M5Stack GND <---> GND of 3rd party device

If the 3rd party device is using 5 V on its data lines (Tx and RX) then the wiring is as follows:

M5Stack (3.3 V) TX <---> Level shifter <---> RX (5 V) of 3rd party device
M5Stack (3.3 V) RX <---> Level shifter <---> TX (5 V) of 3rd party device
M5Stack GND <---> GND of 3rd party device

Here is an example M5Stack unit which uses an DC/DC converter to lower the 5 V to 3.3 V and includes level shifters for the data lines. See schematic.

Thanks
Felix

robski

@zhoubinx said in Where can I find examples of using UART module in UIFlow?:

It looks like the bad thing is from AXP2101 power chip, all the PORTs were set to 5V? Please, any idea of how to lower voltage to 3.3V.
I will also find a multimeter to give a test.

on your graphic USB-C is not PORT C (blue) - unfortunately it is drawn in blue - but this is USB port which you are connecting your Laptop /pc to M5Stack

in general on Ports A/B/C wires blk/red are power pins with gnd/5v on them where other two pins wht/yellow are data/sensor pins with 3.3v expected

zhoubinx

Thanks all friends! I finally figure it out.
I think it is still related to AXP2101. When I keep the USB-C connected and use PORT C to communicate, it works. When plug off the USB-C, PORT C UART port just never send and receive data. I think it is because the USB-C supply power to the PORT C, not the inside battery. I will try to figure out how to let the battery to give power to PORT C.

felmue

Hello @zhoubinx

I am glad to hear you got it working (at least with USB-C power).

BTW: My M5CoreS3 (running UIFlow2 firmware) provides power to all Groove ports (A/B/C) in both cases: running from USB-C or battery.

In your hardware setup, what do you need the 5 V of the Groove port for? If you have a multimeter it should be relatively easy to verify 5 V being present or not.

Thanks
Felix

felmue

Hi guys

I've created an UIFlow2 example (M5CoreS3_Ext_Usb_Power_UIFlow2.0.1) showcasing switching ext. power output (Groove port) and USB power output. You can find it in the UIFlow2 Play Zone.

Thanks
Felix

zhoubinx

Thanks Felix! I will study your new example.