Hi @felmue
you are perfectly right! The SIM7600G-H is not powered by the AMS1117. It's actually the regulator's input voltage that also goes to the Vbat of the SIM modem (Pins 62 and 63).
It's good to know the SIM modem is powered correctly.
But: what ever the AMS1117 does, it's NOT used correctly.
Thanks again for your help!
Kind regards, Dan
Hi @M5,
One more attempt to appeal to your sense of responsibility. I powered the SIM7600G-H Module with 5.0V, between Vin and GND. I measured the following voltages between the pins of the AMS1117 voltage regulator and GND:
1: (GND/Adjust): 0.0V
2: Vin: 3.75V
3: Vout: 2.85V
If the SIM7600 modem is connected to the output of the regulator, which is assumed, then the minimum operating voltage is significantly undershot.
Please respond to these findings and publish a diagram of the green piggyback circuit with the SIM7600 modem. Of particular interest is the connection between Vin and the input of the regulator. Why aren't the 5.0V input voltage making it to the input of the regulator?
Thanks and kind regards,
Dan
Link shop: https://shop.m5stack.com/products/com-lte-modulesim7600g
Link doc: https://docs.m5stack.com/en/module/comx_lte
Worse: They not even changed product code. Both have product no: M031-A.
The first item I bought was the one on the doc site, the one that felmue showed. That worked fine. First customer happy. Then I bought 10 new ones, without being told it's another board inside. Now customers are very unsattisfied. Me too.
Hello @felmue
well, what can I say but: That's weird.
Now, just look at M5's pictures of the module. On their doc site, it's yours. On the shop site, it's mine...
I think we get to the core of the problem. I just measured the voltage, when USB is connected on the M5stack Core Basic 2.7, at the input of ther regulator: 4.3V ! At its output it has 2.8V. That's way off the 3.4V limit.
So the issue is not so much the type of regulator, but the question whether or not we can use internal power supply or not. My understanding of M5's specification is that external power supply is explicitly needed only with Core 2 and Fire. If that wasn't the case, why connect the M-Bus voltage to the module at all.
It seems to be clear now, that power supply MUST be external.
@M5 : Please comment, thanks!
There is 0ohm between the adjust pin of the AMS1117 and the GND pins of the board.
Hi @felmue
That's it: AMS1117. The 33 is written on the second line, on the left under the dirt.
Regards, Dan
On my COM.LTE board, the ASM1117-3.3 has its Adjust Pin connected to GND. That makes this a 3.3V output regulator. That's not enough.
Hi @felmue
thanks a lot for your explanation! Before posting here, I actually did search for a schematic of the green SIM7600 board. With no success. Would be very helpful, to have these schematic too, not only the one of the base board. Maybe even the adding of some capacitor behind the on-board regulator could solve my problem.
I have not only the COM.LTE, but also the GPS module, which draws current from the 3.3v though.
I actually already use an external power supply, added to my custom module. It's a PRM3W-E12-S5, a 5V-output isolated regulator. It's output is connected to the HPWR-Bus. Inside the M5stack-core-basic, I soldered a wire from HPWR to the input fuse.
While this works more or less correctly, I tend to have more problems connecting to the IOT through the SIM module, if this external power supply is used. It's working better, if I use the USB for power supply.
I will try to reverse-engineer the green SIM7600 board, and add a backup capacitor.
Will report back.
Kind regards,
Dan
The SIM7600 modem is specified for power supply between 3.4 and 4.2V. How does the COM.LTE module achieve this, in case the modem is powered from M-BUS 3.3V. If I am understanding correctly, the modem gets its power over Q1 and P3/3. But 3.3V is not between 3.4V and 4.2V. Is there something flawed?
I am currently experiencing intermittent problems with this module. I was able to narrow it down to the power supply. Could you please confirm/refute my understanding of the module's power supply?
Thanks and kind regards,
Dan
First there was the old GPS module COM.GPS (M031-G), which according to its specification has an SMA connector for the external antenna.
Then there is the new GPS module (M003), which according to its specification has also an SMA connector for the external antenna.
But obviously, these two modules in reality have different connectors. If I am right, the M003 has actually an MCX connector.
Thanks and kind regards, Dan
Addendum:
The components close to the MBUS connector also get in the way of the original bottom, if fit to the GPS module.
So I am afraid there is not really a practical solution.
Hi Felix
thanks for the fast response and solution! Yes, removing the battery from the bottom and then attach it with double-sided adhesive tape is actually possible. I just tried it. But on the bottom itself one will also have to cut the hooks of the battery holder, otherwise it won't fit. A bit of a tinkering. I hope one day there will be a more professional solution.
Kind regards, Dan
Hi M5Stack
I'd like to ask the same question as SE: How does the battery connect to the Core2, if there is a GPS module in between.
Thanks and best regards, Dan